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Roban 800 EC135 Red Bull Flying Bulls 1st Forray Into Scale Build Thread
Hi All.. Michael convinced me to start a thread over here documenting the build. But I want to preface it first. I have no idea what I'm doing. I've flown 3D helicopters for years, and also host a popular podcast on the subject (Rotor Revolution RC Podcast). But I've only ever build one scale helicopter, and that was just a matter of throwing a 3D heli inside a pre-painted fuselage and...
Hi All.. Michael convinced me to start a thread over here documenting the build. But I want to preface it first. I have no idea what I'm doing. I've flown 3D helicopters for years, and also host a popular podcast on the subject (Rotor Revolution RC Podcast). But I've only ever build one scale helicopter, and that was just a matter of throwing a 3D heli inside a pre-painted fuselage and calling it done. This build is a massive departure from that. So take nothing I do in this thread as advice, even if I'm confident in it. LOL. Just know I'm a raw beginner in the scale world and I tip my hat to all the top shelf builders in this community and enjoy learning from you all.
The Build: You can see a photo of what I'm hoping to achieve attached to this post. I hope to make this build as detailed as I can and may even attempt to compete at NATs with it for the fun of it if it goes well. But that's a longshot. I just want something to make me smile and challenge me in a new way. I'm starting with the Roban 800 size EC135 white painted fuselage kit with mechanics. I have ordered a ton of 3D printed scale accessories to add to it, a much better lighting system from unilight, and will be outfitting it with an Egodrift motor (I fly for team egodrift), a Spirit FBL with their Wave radio system (I'm on the Spirit team too), a Hobbywing ESC, Pulse Capacitor Backup, Unilight BEC system, running on 12S 5300 and trying some new servos which are high torque and run on a 12Volts. But I may change my mind on the servos.
For now I'm slowly working my way through the mechanics and electronics and getting close to being able to maiden the mechanics on a test sled in a week or so.
Hope this thread gives someone the confidence to jump in with two feet while clueless, or at least gives you all something to laugh about!
-Nick
Len Mount Scout restoration
Fusuno Bell 407 / Vario Mechanics
Roban Hughes 500D
This 500 was built last year. Flew great right off the bench with no modifications other than pinning the torque tube and shortening the landing gear struts by two inches to give a more realistic look. Powered by Align 850MX, Castle 120 on 12S, Spektrum electronics, Bavarian 3X.
Let This Concept Resonate With You
RCPilotLet This Concept Resonate With YouSeeing Is Believing Watching a model (or full-size) helicopter experience severe ground resonance is a sobering experience. Watch this video and then read about why this occurred and how to prevent or mitigate it in your
Seeing Is Believing Watching a model (or full-size) helicopter experience severe ground resonance is a sobering experience. Watch this video and then read about why this occurred and how to prevent or mitigate it in... more
Thanks to Robert Ables for the great photos of my models in the air Saturday at the Texas Heli Bash in Grapevine!
"Low Level Hell"
Being a Veteran of the Vietnam era I have a great fondness for anything helicopter during that time. If you have not read "Low Level Hell" by Captain Hugh Mills you should read it. That is the man and the book that made "Miss Clawd" a well known helicopter in the scale helicopter community. This is my second Miss Clawd with the first being built in the early ninties and nitro powered. This one is...
Being a Veteran of the Vietnam era I have a great fondness for anything helicopter during that time. If you have not read "Low Level Hell" by Captain Hugh Mills you should read it. That is the man and the book that made "Miss Clawd" a well known helicopter in the scale helicopter community. This is my second Miss Clawd with the first being built in the early ninties and nitro powered. This one is a product of Vario Helicopters and equipped with Vario Benzine mechanics, powered with a Scorpion 5035 and retaining the Benzine clutch with a Heliworkshop clutch adapter, a Castle 160 ESC on 12S, Spektrum electronics and a Sound system making a very realistic model. The mechanics were highly modified to allow for a full cockpit and easy battery change. The cockpit is completely "scratch-built" from wood, plastic and aluminum. Pilots are a product of TailoredPilots, WarBirdPilots and patches added for the Vietnam era. Personal weapons and other cockpit accessories came from BlackOpsToys and Ebay. Stetsons were 3D printed by my friend of many years Mark Burks owner of Micro Designs. The "stogie" in the gunners mouth was the idea of my fellow full size pilot Csptian Randy Rivers that I shared a lot of civilian airspace with who also flew the OH 58D in the Iraqi and Afghanistan wars. I try to fly this model just as Miss Clawd was flown by Captain Mills.
Building Scale Landing Gear
RCPilotBuilding Scale Landing GearThis little bit of detailing will be important to those of you who are like me and don't have the equipment to weld metal and aluminum or do not want the expense of having it custom made (professional welders ARE NOT che
Check out Jon Ellis' latest article on scaling up your skids!
This little bit of detailing will be important to those of you that are like me and don't have the equipment to weld metal and aluminum or do not want the expense of having it custom made (professional... more
Roban 800 Mercy Air in Utility Version
I have built a total of 13 Roban scale helicopters and all have flown perfectly. I loved the looks of the Mercy Air but wanted to change it to the "Utility" version replacing the retractable gear with skid gear. Being new to 3D printing, I printed some suitable looking seats, patient streacher, SPH5 flight helmet, cyclic grips. I pieced together the pilot using accessories from Ebay and...
I have built a total of 13 Roban scale helicopters and all have flown perfectly. I loved the looks of the Mercy Air but wanted to change it to the "Utility" version replacing the retractable gear with skid gear. Being new to 3D printing, I printed some suitable looking seats, patient streacher, SPH5 flight helmet, cyclic grips. I pieced together the pilot using accessories from Ebay and BlackOpsToys, added a harness set from Micro Designs to finish out the cockpit and interior. I enjoy building the Roban models, they build easy and fly great. I can't keep them all, lol and this one has a home with a lifelong friend David Stinnett and he is enjoying it immensely.
Adding "exhaust soot" !!
This my friends is one of the most noticeable things you will do to add a realistic and authentic touch to your beautiful model. Nothing else will make the "impact" more than a little exhaust soot. Keep in mind you only want to add this to your scale models with a "top mounted" turbine where you will see the accumulation of soot on top of the tail boom and stabilizers. Don't forget to add little...
This my friends is one of the most noticeable things you will do to add a realistic and authentic touch to your beautiful model. Nothing else will make the "impact" more than a little exhaust soot. Keep in mind you only want to add this to your scale models with a "top mounted" turbine where you will see the accumulation of soot on top of the tail boom and stabilizers. Don't forget to add little soot to the leading edge of the tail rotor blades. The models such as the Hughes 500 series with a bottom mounted turbine will not leave but a slight amount of soot. The reason being: the exhaust from a top mounted turbine will accumulate more on top and in the middle of the tail boom due to air flow and rotor wash. The soot from a 500 series with a bottom mounted turbine will be mostly dissipated before reaching the verticle stabilizer and only a slight amount will accumulate near the bottom from the tail boom down. I like the results from using the Rust-oleum "High Heat 2000 Degree Ceramic Coating" for the best results that suit my goal. I spray the Rust-oleum into a cup and transfer it to my airbrush because the airbrush "atomizes" the paint into a very fine spray. I have used "flat black" paint and it works well but to me is a little "too black" when shot heavy, your choice. Apply the soot compared to your full size pictures. Most Military models accumulate a lot of soot because in a combat environment they are washed only "when water is avalible", lol. When I was flying full size on a long day of flying as you see in the picture of the ENG 206 it would get quite dirty. Just a little soot will enhance the realistic look of your model. If you have a model with a "black" tail boom you need only to add a little dusting of Testors DullCoat right from the can to simulate the soot and deglossing the tail boom. You can see my use of DullCoat in the video. The use of DullCoat is because after many washings the gloss coat will loose it's high shine. The decision to make is "do you want a big beautiful model" or do you want a "big beautiful model that looks REAL".
Detailing a prepainted fuselage.
Most prepainted models from Roban, Funkey, Marvelcraft and others come with very nice paint but not a lot of detail. It is VERY easy to increase the realistic appearance of a prepainted fuselage by adding highlights to the rivets, adding panel lines, hinges and latches with nothing more than a little paint, brushs, 1/64th Graphic Tape and different colors of fine point permanent markers. I...
Most prepainted models from Roban, Funkey, Marvelcraft and others come with very nice paint but not a lot of detail. It is VERY easy to increase the realistic appearance of a prepainted fuselage by adding highlights to the rivets, adding panel lines, hinges and latches with nothing more than a little paint, brushs, 1/64th Graphic Tape and different colors of fine point permanent markers. I highlights the rivets with silver or aluminum permanent markers and "dry brushing", add or highlight panel lines with 1/64 Graphic Tape, simulate latches with small pieces of Monokote trim. I add exhaust soot with a cheap airbrush, if you have a black tail boom as on my yellow and black 407 I simply sprayed a light coat of Testors DullCoat on top of the tail boom and the leading edges of the horizontal and vertical stabilizers along with the leading edge of the tail rotor blades. You can judge by the "before and after" photos to see what a difference this little bit of detailing can accomplish to add a more realistic appearance to your prepainted model.
Making Them Look Real !!!
My goal for many years has been to make my models look as realistic as possible. I am in a small group and there is "absolutely" nothing wrong with having a beautiful "pristine" model but that is not my goal. I spent over thirty years in helicopter aviation and I seldom got the opportunity to fly a "pristine" helicopter. Most all my experience was in well worn and heavily used helicopters and I...
My goal for many years has been to make my models look as realistic as possible. I am in a small group and there is "absolutely" nothing wrong with having a beautiful "pristine" model but that is not my goal. I spent over thirty years in helicopter aviation and I seldom got the opportunity to fly a "pristine" helicopter. Most all my experience was in well worn and heavily used helicopters and I guess it left an impression, lol. Unless you are modeling a Medical helicopter, Executive transport or factory new or Air Force One lol, then there is going to be some wear. Even in ENG ( Electronic News Gathering ) and the Offshore industry ( where I retired ) we had to wash our helicopters daily and even then after hundreds of washings they began to show wear and loose their shine. I can certainly relate to you guys that want a "beautiful" and "brand new" looking helicopter but my goal is a "used" helicopter. I truly know the hesitation in "scuffing up" a new glossy paint job with "0000 steel wool" and "DullCoat" paint but to me it is just adding "realism" to give that authentic look. I "weather and wear" even my pre-painted models. Just adding a little "exhaust soot" can give your model a more realistic look. We love them all, weathered or not, BUT if you want to join the "next level" in modeling look at the pictures and determine if that might be your next goal. Just to show you how dedicated I am to this goal I am giving away an authentic SPH4 helicopter flight helmet as an award to the "most realistic and weathered" model at my Fun-Fly next year.
Starwood Lama 1/5th scale.
HELI-FACTORY Super Cobra 1/6th scale
I purchased this model in 2023 in the"white" and only test flown. It has HELI-FACTORY mechanics with Hacker Q80 for power, Kontronik 200 on 12S, Bavarian 3X, ModelSoundsInc sound system ans Unilight lighting.
It was a "slick" fuselage with no exterior detailing. I added the rivets, panel lines and all exterior detailing. The cockpit was scratch-built, pilots were purchased from BlackOpsToys...
I purchased this model in 2023 in the"white" and only test flown. It has HELI-FACTORY mechanics with Hacker Q80 for power, Kontronik 200 on 12S, Bavarian 3X, ModelSoundsInc sound system ans Unilight lighting.
It was a "slick" fuselage with no exterior detailing. I added the rivets, panel lines and all exterior detailing. The cockpit was scratch-built, pilots were purchased from BlackOpsToys and pieced together with different heads and bodies ( the Frankenstein method ) along with assorted pilot accessories.
The armament is a combination of 3D printed parts from SCALE-PRINT and 9MINIMATRONIX.
Most Super Cobras are painted some form of Navy gray or camouflage. I did a lot of research and found that the USMC used the Sea Cobra in Opperation Urgent Fury and most of their helicopters were Deep Forest Green and even with this being a different version of the Cobra I chose this color, not building for competition but for personal preference. I did modify the skid gear for the proper angles and stance.
As with all my HELI-FACTORY models everything fit perfectly and flys GREAT
This model is now owned by Owen Battle and I am begging him to bring it down to Tennessee for me to once again fly.
FLYWING AS350 RC-Helikopter Scale FPV Flights | Part 2
Hello Scale RC-Helicopter Pilot Friends! I’ve mounted a Caddx Ascent+ HD FPV video system on my Flywing AS350 GPS RC-Helicopter in various positions. Flying an RC helicopter via FPV in full manual mode has a unique appeal—I personally really enjoy it. In this part 2 video of my fpv flight series, I’ll show you some footage from these FPV flights using the different camera positions. Which camera...
Hello Scale RC-Helicopter Pilot Friends! I’ve mounted a Caddx Ascent+ HD FPV video system on my Flywing AS350 GPS RC-Helicopter in various positions. Flying an RC helicopter via FPV in full manual mode has a unique appeal—I personally really enjoy it. In this part 2 video of my fpv flight series, I’ll show you some footage from these FPV flights using the different camera positions. Which camera position do you like best? Have you tried setting up an FPV system yourself, and what has your experience been like?
Watch the Video here if you like to see some FPV Flight Footage:
HeliFactory Bell 412 Looks Sharp!
Check out HeliFactory's beautiful Bell 412. The detail is quite good!
• Scale 1:5
• Rotor diameter 2,8 m
• TOW with Jakadofsky PRO 6000
• Weighs less than 51 pounds
• Flex drive for tail rotor
• Fuselage in sandwich vacuum technology.
BEIER-ELECTRONIC Sound Systems
I have been using sound systems for many years with great results. I had one of my models at a show a few years ago and as I was spooling up I heard the announcer saying what a realistic turbine I was using, he was very surprised to find out it was an electric model with a sound system. I used the older ModelSoundsInc system for years but they went out of business and BeierElectronics, a German...
I have been using sound systems for many years with great results. I had one of my models at a show a few years ago and as I was spooling up I heard the announcer saying what a realistic turbine I was using, he was very surprised to find out it was an electric model with a sound system. I used the older ModelSoundsInc system for years but they went out of business and BeierElectronics, a German based company that has been in the sound business for many years decided to make their system compatible with RC Helicopters. They offer the addition of an amplifier which allows you to hear the authentic rotor sound in flight of the selected full size helicopter.
I have included a video of my Starwood Lama which you can see in the "video section".
BeierElectronics offer many different helicopter sounds to choose from as well as the option to purchase the individual components needed to fit your project. I use two four inch speakers, USM-RC-3 sound module and amplifier in my big models. You can choose the size and number of speakers or use of the amplifier to fit your project. Their system allows you to personalize your model with ATC voices, guns sounds and other sounds if desired. You can power the sound module from your receiver battery or use a seperate 7.4 as I do. I power the amplifer with a small 1000mah 6S for many flights.
You can reach BEIER-ELECTRONIC.DE outside the U.S. or contact HOBBYCONCEPTS.NET in the U.S. if you have questions you can reach out to Bob Jacobsen at HOBBYCONCEPTS and he knows EVERYTHING about the product and can answer any of your questions.
HELI-FACTORY Bell 204
I have built many Hueys, from the Hirobo 30 size to the big gas powered Hirobo but this 1/4.8 scale Huey is the largest at around 98 inches. The first picture is how it came out of the box. I had read many things about the HELI-FACTORY models and the detail and quality was much more than expected. This is one of their "Super Scale" models with rivets and raised panels, panel lines and many other...
I have built many Hueys, from the Hirobo 30 size to the big gas powered Hirobo but this 1/4.8 scale Huey is the largest at around 98 inches. The first picture is how it came out of the box. I had read many things about the HELI-FACTORY models and the detail and quality was much more than expected. This is one of their "Super Scale" models with rivets and raised panels, panel lines and many other exterior details created during the manufacturing of the fuselage. HELI-FACTORY cuts out all opening panels and doors/windows and pre-installed all the woodword ready for the mechanics to be installed. The mechanics were assembled and ready for the installation of my Spektrum electronics, Kontronik 1000 and Kontronik 200 ESC. I installed a sound system for a very realistic start-up and shutdown. The rotor head is the most realistic Huey head I have seen in a model.
The cockpit and armament are a product of SCALE-PRINT. The pilots and gunners are from TailoredPilots. I had the model flying within a couple of weeks "in the white" to get it airworty before disassembly for paint, personal detailing and weathering. I chose to build this Huey to represent a "C" model flown by the "Razorbacks" gunship platoon in Vietnam. The dummy turbine engine and M40 nose mounted granade launcher were 3D printed by Russell Rohan. I prefer my models to look well used and this one is highly weathered. Everything fit perfectly and flys GREAT !!!
Vario Hughes 500C 1/5th scale
RCPilotVario Hughes 500C 1/5th ScaleWanting my models to look a little different from all the others was my goal with this Vario 500C. Mechanics and Electronics I wanted to use the Vario 1002/40 mechanics converted to electric, utilizing the Benzine clutch
Check out Jon's Hughes 500C article. Very instructive whether or not you are building this particular model!
1/6 Animatronic MD500E Pilot doing cargo hoist work
HELI-FACTORY Bell 205 "Air America"
I have been an avid admirer of Heli-Factory models for several years as well as a very big fan of the Bell HUEY. I have several thousand hours in helicopter aviation and had the opportunity to fly the Huey and have been "hooked" ever since. With Heli-Factory introducing the 1/5th scale Bell 205 last year I had to have one and it is one of my most prized models. I have an acquaintance who flew...
I have been an avid admirer of Heli-Factory models for several years as well as a very big fan of the Bell HUEY. I have several thousand hours in helicopter aviation and had the opportunity to fly the Huey and have been "hooked" ever since. With Heli-Factory introducing the 1/5th scale Bell 205 last year I had to have one and it is one of my most prized models. I have an acquaintance who flew for Air America in the sixties and I wanted to build this 205 to represent a 205 flown by the "CIA" covert airline. This model is about 96 inches in length. This is the first Heli-Factory Bell 205 using electric for power. The mechanics are designed and geared for turbine use so I reached out to Vincent Offenbeck at Egodrift with the necessary information and he recommended the 5040HS-385 using a Kontronik 210ESC and running on 14S. All Spektrum electronics, Bavarian 3X. I have added a BEIER-ELECTRONIC.DE sound system.
The cockpit and exterior detailing are a product of Scale-Print, the pilot is from PremierPilots and detailed with the necessary Air America clothing and patches. With the mechanics hidden I had lots of room for scale accessories. Air America was famous for "across the border" operations that were not allowed by the U.S. Military in Vietnam. They flew a lot of cargo resupply ( among other things, lol ) and that is what I wanted to represent. The model is painted in Air America colors of silver and blue and this one is highly weathered to represent a well used helicopter. The 205 has a RTF gross weight of 54 pounds and flys GREAT.
Vario big Schweizer 300 build
Here's my progress on the Big Schweizer 300 from Vario. I just moved to Idaho, so waiting to get moved into our new home, but I'll post up more as the project progresses. I've modified the mechanics frames and installed a back FG panel in the cabin to allow the installation of a full cockpit from Patrick Leong. He and I collaborated on the first of it's kind fully detailed cockpit for this kit...
Here's my progress on the Big Schweizer 300 from Vario. I just moved to Idaho, so waiting to get moved into our new home, but I'll post up more as the project progresses. I've modified the mechanics frames and installed a back FG panel in the cabin to allow the installation of a full cockpit from Patrick Leong. He and I collaborated on the first of it's kind fully detailed cockpit for this kit and it is a work of art. More on the cockpit later. My colleague Patrick printed an incredibly detailed Lycoming engine for it as well. It's converted to electric on 12S with one on my custom clutch adapters for the motor. I'll post pics of the mechanics frame mods when I pull the heli from storage. Stay tuned...
New Blade Bell 206
One of the coolest parts of my job is getting to help bring helicopter products like the Blade Bell 206 to life. As someone who was involved with this project from the beginning, it's been awesome to see the community's reaction now that it's in pilots' hands.
What I love most is that it delivers a scale experience that normally comes with a much bigger price tag. The Bell 206 looks incredible...
One of the coolest parts of my job is getting to help bring helicopter products like the Blade Bell 206 to life. As someone who was involved with this project from the beginning, it's been awesome to see the community's reaction now that it's in pilots' hands.
What I love most is that it delivers a scale experience that normally comes with a much bigger price tag. The Bell 206 looks incredible in the air, is approachable for a wide range of pilots, and doesn't require the investment or complexity that many scale heli projects demand.
I'm curious...what's your favorite part of the Bell 206?
🚁 The scale appearance? 🚁 The flight performance? 🚁 The value? 🚁 Something else?
And for the scale heli crowd: what do you think is the toughest helicopter to beat in this price range?
#BladeHelicopters #Bell206 #RCHeli #ScaleHeli #Rotorhead #HorizonHobby #RCPilot
Draft Demand Letter to the AMA Executive Counsel
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1,300 + AMA members have signed onto a petition to challenge the AMA's secret foray into selling their entire grounds, including the buildings. The committee representing all members has drafted a demand letter. It is now asking for your vote.
RotorFlight 2.3 for scale flight
This is my old Marvel-Craft H125 700 with RVE DUBHE mechanics, I switched to from SAB Kraken 700 and it's much lighter. I used this very easy to fly platform for my first Vantac 007 RF TW/X20RS configuration. It's very important to use the FrSky recommended servo order. I had to change it in my radio which was configured for MSH for Futaba order. I still have a long way to do before it's as...
This is my old Marvel-Craft H125 700 with RVE DUBHE mechanics, I switched to from SAB Kraken 700 and it's much lighter. I used this very easy to fly platform for my first Vantac 007 RF TW/X20RS configuration. It's very important to use the FrSky recommended servo order. I had to change it in my radio which was configured for MSH for Futaba order. I still have a long way to do before it's as consistent and easy to fly as the iKon2. The biggest hurdle is access to the mechanics inside the fuselage to configure the FCU. This is my first flight and it shows. The heli is all over the place but at least I did not crash it. I will spend the winter months working on it. Head speed is 1150, Heli-Tec 680, Hobbywing 200 (for ballast and easy to configure in RF). Integration and telemetry work perfectly. I had to change to 110 tail blades because of the low head speed and tail authority loss.
Goosky E7
I was lucky enough to get an early production version with the 10T pinion. I relocated the packs and use a pair of 3300 batteries for 7 minutes at 7.5kg and a head speed of 1100 rpm. A low kV motor is recommended like the Egodrift 4230EC-370kV. Stock 630mm look like symmetrical and fly great ONCE balanced. The mechanics fit perfectly well inside the frp. The fuselage is built for a tail belt...
I was lucky enough to get an early production version with the 10T pinion. I relocated the packs and use a pair of 3300 batteries for 7 minutes at 7.5kg and a head speed of 1100 rpm. A low kV motor is recommended like the Egodrift 4230EC-370kV. Stock 630mm look like symmetrical and fly great ONCE balanced. The mechanics fit perfectly well inside the frp. The fuselage is built for a tail belt riser and it works perfectly. It's very sturdy with a 15mm main mast.
Powering Your Bird: The Ultimate Guide to Receiver and Servo Batteries
RCPilotPowering Your Bird: The Ultimate Guide to Receiver and Servo BatteriesWe always talk about how a cheap ball link can destroy an expensive model. Well, an interruption in power to your receiver and servos can also result in a total loss of control, transforming a prized model into an expens
Choosing the right onboard power source is critical. Let's explore the pros, cons, and best use cases for LiPo, LiFe, and Li-ion packs.
Converting the Roban 470 Cobra to a FrSky X18 and TD R6 Receiver
RCPilotConverting the Roban 470 Cobra to a FrSky X18 and TD R6 ReceiverThanks for stopping by! I'm honored to have the opportunity to share what I've learned while converting my ready-to-fly Roban 470 Cobra to work with my own radio system. I'm not a very experienced RC helicopter pilot, an
A Complete Step-by-Step Conversion Guide — From Installation to Successful Flight Testing

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